Jesus has already returned?
I received this e-mail from my other web site. This is a particularly dangerous view, as it could lead a person to accept a false Christ. Let there be no doubt - Jesus himself will return as himself, visibly and as our King of Kings. When that day comes - no other religion will remain. No corrupt government will continue. Jesus returns as our judge. If you haven't been judged, then Jesus hasn't returned.
I wrote back personally, but thought it might be helpful here, too. This "Jesus has already returned" view is held by extreme preterists (could still be Christians, but taking a whole lot of liberties with God's Word), Jehovah Witnesses (not Christians - they deny that Jesus is God and believe his death was only to pay for Adam's sins) and others. I'm not sure what theology this man ascribes to, other than what he says here. I've changed nothing from his letter other than removing his name.
From your website I see that you are concerned about the return of Jesus. Jesus has already returned. Such a return happens through another human being as Jesus said here:
Matthew (From the KJV):
11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
17:12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
17:13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Who is the returned Jesus then? Jesus gave a clue here:
Mark (From the KJV):
8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Start looking for a figure with the words "the Glory of the Father" or "the Glory of God" in His name. You will eventually find him. He has come in the thief mode.
Dear Mr. H,
I'm afraid I must disagree.
Act 1:9And when he (Jesus) had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
The Bible says that Jesus rose up in to the sky and went into the clouds. When he returns, he will come in the same way. The text is clear, and the rest of the Bible verifies it.He went into the clouds in full view, and he will return in full view. His leaving wasn't spiritual - and his return won't be spiritual. We're not looking for his return in ANOTHER human, but as "this same Jesus."
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
This says "every eye" will see him - not just those with discernment - not just those looking for him in this way, but EVERY eye. When that day comes, the tribes of Israel will mourn (this word "kindreds" is really "tribes" in the Greek) as Zech. 12 specifies. There has been no mourning - and EVERY eye hasn't seen him. On the contrary, the Bible warns us not to be deceived by people claiming to be Christ:
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man (including you, I'm afraid) shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; (or has already returned invisibly - or in the form of another human) believe [it] not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (another way of saying that "every eye" will see him)
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,(again, in agreement with Zech 12) and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
When Jesus returns to earth, it will be with power and great glory. He is not coming as the sacrificial lamb this time, but as the lion of Judah, as the King. Yes, Jesus comes as a thief, but to snatch the believers:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord
If you have not been caught up into the clouds, then either you are not a believer, or Jesus has not returned. When Jesus DOES return, physically, visibly, this is what will happen:
Zec 14:2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
When Jesus returns, he will be king over EVERYTHING, and there will be ONE LORD. How many religions are there right now?
Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mar 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Mar 13:27And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. There has been no gathering yet!
Mar 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see (Who was he talking to here? Not believers, who could conceivably see him with "eyes of discernment", but those who were about to crucify him) the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Jhn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Jhn 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also.
If you have not received your heavenly mansion, then either you are not a believer, or Jesus has not returned.
Mr. H, I'm not writing these things in a mean spirit, but simply to show that the Bible does not agree with your position. There are many people who wind up believing things that are contrary to God's Word because they've been victims of churches that pick and choose from the Bible and then tell you what it REALLY means. If that has happened in your case - whether it's Jehovah Witnesses, extreme preterism or something else - I just recommend that you let God teach you Himself for awhile.
Set aside the commentaries, the pastors' views, the teachings of your church, friends, etc., and just start reading the Bible by itself. Pray for God to teach you the truth, and He will. I'm not against people teaching each other - where would we be without that? But, if you've been deceived, God will show you the truth. He WANTS to show you the truth. He says, "If anyone lacks wisdom, he has only to ask." Notice that it says ANYONE - not just the elect - not just the 144,000 - can ask God for wisdom, and God will grant it. Ask Him to help you understand His word, and then just dig in. If I were you, I'd start at the beginning and just keep going. Some motivated people have read the entire Bible in six weeks or less.
Don't worry about the Bible version controversies this time through - just pick one you'll actually read. Even the Jehovah Witness Bible contains enough truth to understand, if you'll read it without them telling you what it means.
It was no coincidence that you wound up on my web site - if for no other reason than for God to bring you to my attention so that I might pray for you. You can trust that I will. I wish you the riches of God's truth!